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Effortless Nondual Awareness



Let’s start by asking yourself, what’s it like to be me right now? And really check, what’s it like to be you right now? In the most general sense, how’s your body feel? How are your emotions doing? What’s the state of your mind? What’s the weather report from being you? So, just give yourself a good check-in like that, and whatever the weather report is–clear skies and sunny, or a tsunami mixed with a hail storm–I’m mixed with a tornado, that’s okay, just let it be. Perfectly fine to be that way right now. 

So, we’re checking in, and essentially completely accepting, and allowing whatever’s happening. Not trying to change it, or control it, or judge it, or celebrate it, even, but simply let it be just the way it is. Let’s just do that for a minute or two together.

Good. Now, I want you to imagine that you’re sitting like a tree, to pretend whatever it means for you, that you’re going to sit this evening like a tree. But part of that is imagining that you have roots that go down all the way to the center of the earth. This is quite a large tree–way down, tremendously deep and powerful roots, that not only give tremendous stability but also tap into the most primordial life force. So, really feel those roots, all the way down to the center of the earth, and outward. Giving tremendous stability, and tremendous life force. Again, we’re just imagining here. Then, another part of this tree is that the branches and leaves go up to the top of the sky, and fill out the tremendous vast sky. 

And, of course, just as we are as people, as a tree, we are a living being. There is the sap running through the tree, there’s various energies running through the tree. It’s a living system, it’s beautiful and powerful and alive, receiving so much light on the leaves in the sky, and so much life force from the roots down to the center of the earth. So vibrating with life into energy and stability. 

So just feel that in your imagination, and notice that, as this tree, there’s a certain sense of nobility and beauty. This vast tree has a kind of inherent nobility that each of us has, and tremendous beauty–it’s naturally beautiful. There are many more things we can say about a tree, but for this meditation, just also notice that this tree accepts itself completely. A tree does not judge its bark, or somehow not like a turn of its branch, it’s utterly accepting of itself. It’s wide open, and a tree knows how to be still, knows how to keep the same pose for decades, without any strain or effort. So, see if you can notice that kind of relaxed open stillness, that has a sense of beauty and nobility and tremendous groundedness, like a tree. 

Notice that the tree is also incredibly welcoming, feels a sense of openness and love and welcoming for birds that may come by, or squirrels, or whatever other beings come by, the tree is welcoming and loving, and also a good host. The tree provides shade in which it’s comfortable to rest, even for a meditating Buddha, the tree provides a wonderful spot, a protected spot. We always think about the Buddha meditating under the tree, but think about the tree welcoming and protecting and providing a loving nurturing presence for the Buddha, like a Bodhi Tree of Awakening.

Good. Now, you can let go of that visualization, or that imagination, but still feeling those qualities, tune into your breath as it rises and falls, the rising and falling breath. But don’t do this in a tight, narrow, microscopic way. Let it be really open, really open, it doesn’t take any focus at all. In fact, the awareness, the open awareness, just is aware of the breath rising and falling in a very pleasant way. Don’t narrow anything, let it be wide, wide open. Maybe the breath is just like one little squirrel running up and down the trunk, a tasker running up and down the trunk. So, just tune in, and feel the breath rising and falling. 

And as you’re doing that, I’m just going to invite you to relax your forehead and your eyebrows. Feel that relaxation coming into the face of the cheeks and mouth and lips. Let’s let that naturally release, and just feel open and soft. You know how good it feels to relax any tight expression. And the same with your throat and neck and shoulders–we’re not going to do yoga or anything–we’re just inviting the tension to drain away. Tension drains all the way down through the roots, back into the center of the Earth, and simply leaves a more spacious, open, relaxed, feeling in the neck and throat and shoulders. You might feel your throat doing that thing where your voice lowers because the muscles there relax. 

Continuing to just notice the rising and falling of the breath in the vastness of awareness, almost like in the background, it’s just there rising and falling. 

Allow, now, your arms and hands and fingers become as limp as wet rags, so limp you couldn’t use them for anything if you tried without tightening them up. They’re just utterly released, not ready to go, but almost put away for the moment. And as you feel your face and your head and your throat and neck and shoulders and arms and hands feeling that relaxed, just tune into how good that feels. Tune into the pleasantness there. 

We can have a tendency to tune into tightness or what’s not relaxing, but I want you to tune into what is soft, what is released, what is open, what is free of tension. Focus on that part, and notice that, as you do that, you drop now into a much deeper place, a much more open, and effortless, and wide awake place–bright, clear awareness, but tremendous gentle, soft, openness at the same time. And allow that relaxation to impact your chest and diaphragm, and your belly, so that whole part of your torso in the front and in the back, just inviting it to release and open. Allowing any tension again to drain away, drain down into the Earth, leaving a sense of peacefulness, and softness, gentleness, openness, in the body. At the same time, a quiet awakeness, not sleepy or dreamy, but quite clear, quite bright, quite sharp. Notice how that lack of tension in your belly, your belly just becomes soft and easy and open, but that really feels good, and allows that sense of the rising and falling breath to be a little clearer, maybe a little more forward in the vast sky of awareness itself. That belly feels so good breathing. 

Then let the pelvic region relax, the hips relax, tension draining away from your legs and feet, into the Earth, which greedily accepts it. Earth loves that leaving just a sense of freedom and gentleness and openness in the legs and feet. The legs become as soft and gentle as wet rags, no tension at all. And as that last bit of tension leaves the body, just feel the entire body now, dropping just a little more completely into openness and ease. A much more profound sense of stillness–the kind of stillness that comes from relaxation. 

And notice that if your eyes are closed, the eyelids are so relaxed, you can’t actually open them without tightening them. So notice that–try to open them–you can’t do it unless you tighten them, but they’re so relaxed they’re actually kind of stuck shut. The same thing with your arms and hands. Of course, if you tightened them, you could move them, but at this point, they’re so relaxed that if you leave them relaxed, you actually can’t move them. And that sense of tremendous relaxed stillness then permeates the entire body so much that except for breathing, again, unless you tense it up, you can’t move. So relaxed, it’s perfectly still, just breathing gently, but other than that, can’t move, doesn’t want to move. 

Enjoying the stillness, the wide awake stillness, very bright mind. And, this is the interesting thing, because that relaxed stillness in the body permeates the mind as well, the mind finds it kind of relaxed stillness. Also, hopefully, noticing the rising and falling, the effortless up and down motion of the breath without any effort and utterly tension-free. Resisting nothing, changing nothing, so let’s sit together for a little while here, simply very relaxed, very awake, allowing the sky of the mind to simply rest in itself, as the breath rises and falls within it. 

Notice that it takes zero effort to be aware, the awareness is always already there. Notice the breath rising and falling, without tightening or narrowing at all, and notice how good that feels. It’s inherently pleasant to return to our natural state of relaxed, open awareness, that’s naturally awake without any effort.

Good. Now, just let awareness fill all of space, and if it seems like anything at all is in the way of that, just recognize that that’s just an idea, that’s just a mental construct–something you’re keeping solid in your mind. But no, there’s a wall there–just let go of those constructs, and allow awareness to simply fill all of the space, without any boundary, without any obstruction, without any limit of any kind. It’s boundless, boundless, awareness, or, we could say, boundaryless. Again, every place where it seems like it’s not that, just notice that that is just an idea, and just gently let go of that idea. What if it just fills all space, without any boundary, without any ideas blocking it. Feel what that feels like–tremendously vast awareness.  

I’ve noticed that it does that in all directions, even straight down, fills all space in that direction, with no boundary. Straight back–fills all space with no boundary. Straight up, and in all directions, you’re encountering a boundary is just an idea, just a concept. We let go of that concept, and notice the boundarylessness. It just falls open to vastness, without limit. Notice that vastness right now, boundaryless, boundless awareness. 

Again, if there’s any direction that you’re encountering a boundary, notice the boundary is just in your mind, and then see through it. Allow it to just dissolve or fall away. it’s just in your mind. Notice the opening that follows. 

Good. Now, I ask you this question, and I want you to look at what answer arises. How long has this awareness been here? How long has this vast, boundless, awareness been here? Look, right now. Don’t come up with an answer from ideas of how long you think it’s been, but look directly at it. How long has it been here? When you look directly, you’ll notice there’s kind of two ways to answer that. You either say it’s always been here, or that question doesn’t make any sense, because time doesn’t really apply to awareness. It’s in a timeless place. Some people like to say, well, it’s always in the now. But it’s not even in the now, because that’s a time expression. The now is only situated between the past and the future. This is timeless, it’s outside of time, it’s eternal. In other words, notice that you’ve learned to construct a time box in your head, but that’s inside awareness. Awareness is not inside time, so just drop the time box, and notice that awareness is naturally free and timeless, as well as boundless. It’s not some special state, it’s just the way it is. 

When I say it’s timeless, sometimes people think that I mean they’re going to see the big bang, or some kind of science fiction future, but it’s not like that. It’s just outside of time. Time is a construct in your mind, so let’s let that construct go, and you’ll notice awareness is free, it’s timeless, it’s easy, effortless, wide awake.

Good. So, we have this boundless, timeless awareness that’s already wide awake without any effort, simply by dropping some of the constructs that we work so hard to maintain. Just letting those go. In other words, not working hard to keep them in place they just fall open, and we’re left with boundless, timeless, wide awake awareness, that we always already have.

Now, what’s happening in that awareness right now? Hear the sounds–are you doing anything to hear sound? They’re just naturally aware, the crows agree. Feel the air on your skin, feel the cushion beneath you, feel the comfort or pain in your legs or back. Are you doing anything on purpose to feel all that, or is it just simply there in awareness, without any effort? Notice all the thoughts arising–thoughts are fine, we’re not against thoughts. Does it take any effort to notice those, or, even more interestingly, does it take any effort to have them, or do they just run on their own? In your body, notice the emotions that are arising. Maybe sadness, maybe fear, maybe frustration, maybe joy, maybe peace, maybe all of the above at once. All those emotions are simply there in awareness, presenting themselves without any effort. Just there doing their thing.

What’s in awareness, I asked you, what is in awareness? Everything is.

Where’s the sense of somebody doing something? Here I am, I’m doing my meditation.

Where’s that? That’s just something arising in awareness, without anybody doing anything. Awareness does not do anything and accomplishes everything. Notice that now. The entire world arises within awareness, not the other way around.

Boundless, timeless, awakeness that we always already are. Let’s rest as that now,

aware of everything, without any effort. Don’t do anything, just let awareness be.

Good. Now, look carefully, right now, where is the awareness coming from? What’s its source? It’s boundless, timeless–the entire world is arising within it. The entire sense of self is arising within it. Where is it coming from? Look. Look again. Where’s its source? Is there a fountain of awareness in the center of the head, or some kind of awareness tube with awareness rays coming out of it? Where is it coming from?

Notice, you can’t find it. It’s not coming from anywhere. Look as hard as you want, right now. You can’t find a source. Isn’t that crazy? There’s one central fact about existence, you’re aware, right now, and you can’t find where it comes from. It doesn’t come from anywhere, it’s just there.

Good. Look, What’s awareness made of? What’s it made of? Hint: it’s not made of anything. It’s not coming from anywhere, it’s not made of anything, and yet experience is present. As deep as you look, you won’t be able to find any cognons or particles of awareness. The sense of you and the entire world and all the beings in it arise within awareness, and awareness itself isn’t even a thing. Notice that now in your own experience. Your experience of yourself and the whole world is just floating like a dream in itself, vibrantly clear, shockingly bright, vivid, intense, and yet groundless, empty.

Now, notice the property of awareness that it’s so open, it accepts everything, every sight, every sound, every feeling, every thought, every being. Awareness rejects nothing, and this non-rejection, this tremendous openness, is a kind of welcoming presence. So, not in your mind, not in your body, not in emotions, but in awareness itself, feel this welcoming acceptance of everything. Unconditional welcoming presence for everything and everyone. It’s right there, you don’t have to make it up or try to have some feeling of something. It’s that welcoming presence is right there, nothing is rejected, no one is tossed out, including you, just exactly the way you are, without any change whatsoever. Completely welcome, completely accepted, just the way you are, right now.

Now, meditate like a tree, feel your groundedness in the earth, with your branches up into the heavens, and then just let go of that again.

Good. In timeless time, it’s crow o’clock–my favorite time. So we’ll end the meditation there. Feel free to move and stretch. To have a meditation when there’s a whole movement class going on right there, a lot of moving and stretching happening sonically, it’s kind of interesting.


Thank you. So before I kind of fall into whatever I feel like pontificating about, I notice that we’ve got quite a number of bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, brilliant people here this evening, so I’ll just invite your curiosity. Feel free to raise your hand and report on your experience, or whatever questions you might have, and we’ll see what we can do with those as a group.  

Questioner 1:  Yeah, I found much of that easy in the observation that what you’re describing, that the timelessness thing. I didn’t know how to latch onto that. It felt this underlying ground that felt timeless in the way that the floor that we’re sitting on feels timeless–no perception of it changing. But it sounds like you’re describing something…

Michael: No, that’s about it. It’s not that it’s not changing, but that it’s not, as I said, sometimes people think it’s going to be really psychedelic to go timeless, but it’s really the opposite. It feels really just like time doesn’t apply, and that feels either kind of still, or open–has a lot of space, but also kind of normal. It’s just we’re not applying the time box. If you get the move, the move is easy–just drop the time box, you realize every day since you were about five, you learned how to assemble the time box. So we’re just used to doing that effort, but it’s a thing you can just not do. It’s a habit that you can not do, and if you drop it, everything’s still there, but there’s no time box.

So, yeah, that sounds pretty reasonable, what you’re describing. It’s a very nice thing to let go of. It’s not hard. People make it hard, but it’s not. I think describing it as a movement, in the sense of like you know a thing you can stop doing, that kind of idea of a move. It’s just a habit that we can not engage in. The hard part is noticing the thing that’s doing it, and then, once you notice it, though, it’s easy to go, oh, okay, I don’t have to do that. Then it’s just timeless. What’s interesting, again, is that that’s not even now, because now is a time idea. It just feels eternal, or timeless, or something like that, or like time is irrelevant. Awesome, what else is out there?

You guys feeling like trees?

Questioner 2: Can you explain what a fruition is and how somebody can…

Michael: I will give my explanation. It’ll probably be kind of wrong, but it’s how I think about it. That word is from a particular part of a particular tradition, but I don’t really think of it within those traditional boxes exactly, so I’m not going to give you the super traditional answer, okay?

I would just say, a fruition is the culmination of a particular kind of wave of meditative insight. So, one of the things people think is that meditation is about relaxation, but, of course, if I go I’m from Michigan right? If I go back to Michigan, and I meet someone that knew me 30 years ago, they’ll be like, oh, what do you do? And, I’m like, I’m a meditation teacher and they’ll say, oh, I need to relax, I need to relax. That’s what you do, right? you teach people to relax. And, you guys were in here, I show people how to relax a little bit, but there’s more to do, right? 

And, so, as one of the things we’re trying to do is have insights into the nature of ourselves the nature of the world, etc., and so we can think of particular movements or waves of meditation as culminating in an insight. And that movement or wave might take hours or weeks or months, but as we’re going deeper, and opening, and getting clearer, and going deeper, and opening, and getting clearer, eventually we may have quite a profound insight into the nature of our sense of self, or into the nature of the world, and that’s the fruition of that wave of insight. 

Classically, those would be very particular insights, but I think that as long as they are of a certain nature and depth, I would call that a fruition. Usually, something to do with seeing some

of the things we were looking at here tonight, just very clearly, the sense of self is just something arising in awareness. It doesn’t have any actual basis or location, or it doesn’t exist on its own. Something like that, seen very deeply and very clearly, would be a fruition in my way of understanding. 

Classically, you would get that insight after having like a kind of lights-out brief cessation type experience, but it doesn’t have to happen that way, as far as I’m concerned. There’s other ways that those insights can arise. Does that even partially answer your question? Okay, other stuff coming from that direction?

I mean the word really is phala, which is the word “fruit,” so it’s fruition, meaning you’ve grown this whole tree, and finally you get sort of the final result, so the insight comes from all the work. 

Questioner 2: By extension, I’m also interested in cessasions, and what those are. I think I’ve heard that they sometimes happen that you may not notice? What is a cessation? How is it distinct from a fruition?

Michael: Sure, you can have cessation without fruition. Cessation is simply when meditative insight grows sufficiently clear, the concentration and clarity and equanimity reaches a place where there’s no fabrication whatsoever of any sensory arising, and so the entire system can just basically stop for a moment–zero sensory arising–and even zero sense of awareness for a moment. 

It’s very easy to mistake things that are like that for it, so I’m reluctant to you know give anything but a really long description, but I’ll still give a short description, and say, it’s not just like falling asleep or nodding out or something, because after a cessation, there’s a very distinct sense of the mind having to reboot all the way from the bottom up. So, it’s not like when your screensaver blanks out for a minute, and you touch the trackpad, and the whole thing comes back, it’s more like reboot and you watch everything rebuild.

So it’s a very distinct thing, and I think there’s some unique opportunities there when that happens, but that typically comes about–doesn’t have to–but it typically comes about from very kind of narrow microscopic, very, very high speed, high clarity type of practice.  But not always. It can happen even from very wide, open, very non -attentive type practice, but with a lot of just wakefulness. Is that making any sense at all to you?

It would be pretty hard to miss. I know people say you can miss it, but I don’t think that’s possible, honestly. I think, when I’ve heard people say, that it’s usually saying that other traditions really have them but just don’t notice, which, to me, no they don’t, you notice it. So, pretty hard to miss.

Questioner 3: I have a curiosity about how people carry tension. I notice in my body how I’m doing this. Why would I be holding this tension?

Michael: OK, put your hand out and clench your fist, now unclench it.  How does that work? I mean we can talk about the neurology of it, and all that, we have a pretty good understanding, but you know really how the intention to move arises, and all that? If we go deep enough, that’s pretty hard to unpack. We can unpack it fairly deeply, but eventually it’s sort of, like, why does anyone want to do anything? Somewhere in there there’s a desire to act, and it’s causing the muscles to move, but what’s interesting is, we think of that as very short-term, very temporary. I’m going to pick up a coffee cup. I’m going to brush my forehead, but, what if some parts of your mind just are holding an action? Same thing, it’s not any different than this, it’s just these muscles here are doing that and not stopping holding.

So what’s the cure? We go in there and find the thing that’s holding, and just relax it. But that might be really really deep in there. And it may have been doing it so long that even the muscles need to relearn how to relax. If it’s really a pattern that’s been over decades. I would just say doing embodied exploration of that area can be really really, really helpful, but you’ll find, eventually, because you’re alive, it’s not stuck. There’s just something to find how to relax. Again, if it’s been over a really long time, it might not want to just relax, it might need to be kind of like stretched open, to relearn its relaxed position. Okay, does that make any sense?

Questioner 3:  Yes. I have another question. Last week I was here and I had this experience that I’ve never had before in meditation. I felt like somebody turned a big light up–it was very white, and then just fell down, and I don’t know what that is.

Michael: That’s a meditation experience, yeah, it’s super wonderful, but you can’t say what it is more than to say that’s a good meditation experience. It’s probably energizing, and clarifying, and motivating and all that. But it’s also a special experience, it’s not like every time you meditate that’s going to happen, or that’s a goal, like we could make it like okay, I want that to happen every time, so here’s what we’re going to do. That doesn’t really help, so what we do is just go, that’s a great experience, okay. Next. Just come back and sit some more, but, of course, it’s a good thing, something nice occurred, and you can describe it in different ways, but it really just boils down to–that’s awesome, keep going, don’t get stuck there, don’t think that that’s the thing. Even though that’s wonderful, right? It’s really easy for us to try to get real conceptual around that stuff, and it’s better to just let it be something beautiful and leave it at that.

Other stuff? Yes.

Questioner 4:  In today’s meditation after the tree and the relaxing the body, more non-dual stuff, I found I could not follow it at all, I had this buzzing in my head. 

Michael:  That’s totally fine.

Questioner 3:  The questions you were posing, my mind was just not engaged with that.

Michael: Great, how’d that feel?

Questioner 3: Equanimous.

Michael: Yeah, so I said your mind just opens and and relaxes, great. You’re never required to follow the meditation. I want you to stay awake. You were awake, you were sitting upright the whole time. But, being just wide open, wide awake, clear, not following the concepts–totally fine. Let that be the way it is, yeah, great.

Questioner 4:  I had a question about interaction around spaciousness. I struggle with that. I was very relaxed and still, but yet like it’s not other than setting the intention, it doesn’t go beyond that. 

Michael: How would you know if it went beyond that? What would be proof positive that it was spacious? 

Questioner 4: I’m not sure.

Michael: So, how do you know it’s not happening, okay? 

Questioner 4: Because it feels the same as before I set an intention. 

Michael: So, that’s that’s not a bad answer. What I would say is, we can go about it very technically and say if we start looking at the mental images present in your mind, you’ll see, when, even with your eyes closed, there’s a mental image of a wall over there, and a mental image of the ceiling, but those are just mental images. They’re not actual boundaries, and so if we either see through them, we see that those are mental images, not actual boundaries–that’s enough. But once we see through them, we might be able to just kind of relax them. 

Either way, the seeing through of the mental boundary releases into a sense of–it just feels spacious–and what you realize you’re doing, just like there’s a time box, there’s a space box you keep putting yourself in. And it’s really useful for not bumping into walls when you’re walking around, but there’s no reason to keep it going when you’re just sitting still. And so I want you to learn to recognize the space box you’re making. There’s a floor here, there are walls here, there’s a ceiling there, and you’re always doing that, and it’s just a video game you’re playing in your head. If you can clearly notice that video game, then it’s very easy to relax it. 

There are a lot of ways we can do that. We could do really technical vipassana on mental images until you noticed those arising. So, right now, think of how you would leave out the front door. Did you see a series of pictures? Okay, so with a lot of meditative clarity, you would see those pictures very clearly, it’s just semi-conscious right now, but that’s a space box you’re making. So, close your eyes right now, think of the room you’re in, the people, the ceiling, the walls, the floor–all that. That’s just a picture in your head, right? Now, just let go of the picture or the sense of those being there, and you’ll feel like, oh, inside awareness, there’s just space. I can build these conceptual walls and that’s useful, but I can also let go of them. Are you getting a feel for that? 

Questioner 4:  Yeah I’m looking for a lightning bolt but it’s not going to happen. 

Michael: It’s just like the timelessness–It doesn’t turn into something super trippy. It’s

just, oh, that feels nice. It’s space now in the room, so that’s all. It’s not hard if you just

get it that there’s a game your brain is playing, and we just want you to just rest that game for a minute. Excellent, these are great questions! Anything else? Something deeper than like what’s a fruition? 

Questioner 5:  In the way that we’re meditating, open awareness nondual way, is it even helpful to have cessations?

Michael: Yes, but we’re not trying to. If that happens, that’s great, because watching all the concepts build back is very useful, and even in even in non-dual traditions, we can talk about penetrating the substrate of the mind, and beneath that is the open awareness the real big open awareness, so it’s useful if someone can do that. We can certainly leverage that. On the other hand, there’s other ways to get at the same thing that don’t require that. So there’s another way.

Questioner 5:  You have mentioned that cessation is a precursor to insight. If you’re not having cessations, are there any other things?

Michael: That’s what we just did. You’re always looking for the boundlessness, the timelessness, the fact that all the sensory arisings are happening in the awareness, not the other way around. So, technically that’s real vipashyana in this tradition. Instead of looking for impermanence and no self and suffering like you would do in Theravada vipassana, here with vipashyana, we’re looking for emptiness. What does that mean? Note, for example, the emptiness of time, notice that time is a mental construct. It doesn’t have to stop, you’re just not making a thing out of it. It’s empty, oh, notice that you’re building a spatial 3D kind of stage of the world around you all the time in your mind, and that’s just a constructor making. You don’t have to stop the construct, but notice it’s a construct. Now that scene is empty, right? 

So we’re seeing all of those things, including the sense of self, including the sense of the world around you, including very particularly the sense of doership–that’s a very, very important

one to see the emptiness of. That’s what we’re looking for, those are the insights, and as we see the emptiness of all those things at once, you’re just left with a tremendous awakeness that is also empty. That’s just the beginning, but that’s what you’re looking for. You do it on purpose, just like when we do vipassana, it’s not just that I’m going to be with what is, it’s I’m going to particularly look for three things, I’m going to look for impermanence, I’m going to look for the lack of a sense of self, I’m going to look for unsatisfactoriness or dukkha, or whatever. You’re specifically trying to see–a thing about reality, or a thing about experience.

In the non-dual precursors, we’re looking for emptiness, right? So it’s super important to get what emptiness is, and be able to notice it directly. So even if you don’t you notice, I think I only used the word emptiness once tonight and it was an accident, so I was just pointing to emptiness without ever saying that word. Saying it is empty is the same as saying it is a mental construct, it doesn’t mean it’s not there, but it’s also not there in the way that we tend to think it is it’s there. So once we see all the mental constructs as fundamentally what they are–mental constructs–what’s left is really interesting. And, again, even that is just a beginning place. Those are the precursors. Awesome! All right, those are some great questions! Thank you. 

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