DY 004 – “Feather Light & Paper Thin” – with guest Shinzen Young

In by Michael W. Taft2 Comments


Shinzen Young

In this session, host Michael W. Taft and meditation teacher Shinzen Young talk about the relationship between mindfulness practice (as it is usually defined) and nondual-type practices (or non-practices, if you like), the way that focusing on the details of experience relates to focusing on awareness itself, micro-sessions & nano-nirvanas, the thinness and lightness of the screen of awareness and much more. Learn more about Shinzen Young at Shinzen.org.


  1. I just got done with the interview “Feather Light and Paper Thin” and it was great. The distinction between mindfulness and nonduel practices was cool to hear. The analogy of the arrow was helpful. I resonated with most of the interview. Couldn’t get the cone analogy.

    1. So glad you liked it, Homer! I’m not sure many people understood Shinzen’s description of the cones.

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